Atheists Guild

Add a Comment

Comment by X6 on October 1, 2009 at 2:15am

Just in case you haven't noticed the discussion "Do you believe in God?" by SIMPLESMENTE PATRÍCIA have been move and edited. This is due to the excessive use of imagery. The text is too long and to vague to debate but I decided do leave it as is any way. In future posts I advise simple and straight forward topics of discussion in order to be easier to debate.

Comment by X6 on September 6, 2009 at 10:55pm

New Trailers on Videotheist.

Jesus Camp -> Read about on IMDB

Reliculous Read about on IMDB

Comment by Miguel on October 5, 2008 at 2:17am

Comment by X6 on September 1, 2008 at 3:18pm

To all

TJ - Was not expelled, he freely opted to abandon the group.

Comment by X6 on September 1, 2008 at 10:22am

"you wont have to actually discuss the things of the heart and Human spirit !! (...) the reality of it is this ......... You guys never really say anything !!!! You are sheep !!"

It's true! We don't. The "Heart and human spirit" are questions to be discussed in a Theist Forum not in this one. Sorry but if you start a forum on bunnies I will not go there trying to force discussions on elephants.
We did say a great lot of things but you seem do refuse to think them through and really discuss them.
On the matter "You are sheep!!!" (yes guys with a triple exclamation mark) it is sad that you see it that way. We try to build our vision of the world using rational reasoning over as much opinions on matters like: god, origin of life, origin of the universe and so forth. I do not have to accept something just because someone told me to, neither does science, and that is why our vision of the world is a great and ever evolving concept, rather than an universal, dogmatic and stagnated explanation. To experience the world through science is a much greater experience than trough a narrow sighted religious version of it (just try to read something like Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" or the "Blind Watchmaker" by Dawkins).

Recalling "the sheep" business... Sheep is a term used to define people that do not make decisions, they just follow on others. It is even a word use by some religions to define their followers. Sorry but I do not think it applies to us.

Comment by i live under your bed on September 1, 2008 at 3:16am

After reading those, i came to realize the horror of theists of people that read books and use citations :D :D :D

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful." - Seneca

"If one believed that the universe had a beginning, the obvious question was, what happened before the beginning. What was God doing before He made the world? Was He preparing hell for people who asked such questions?" - Stephen Hawking

“Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration—courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth.” - H.L. Mencken

"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in his arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters." - H. L. Mencken

"God is a concept by which we measure our pain" - John Lennon

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses." - Albert Einstein.

"Religions are people arguing about who's got the better imaginary friend" - Richard Jeni

"The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion." - Arthur C. Clarke

"Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides." - Carl Sagan

Comment by i live under your bed on September 1, 2008 at 2:54am

it's very unfortunate that things have come to this end TJ.

You came here making accusations and you leave this group making accusations.

You made "extraordinary claims" without producing any "extraordinary evidence" and have failed to explain why your religion claims are true and necessary.

Instead of demonstrating your points and why they are valid, as others did, you concentrated on "ad hominem", attacking the person making the argument instead of the argument itself.


The arguments YOU used were:

- It's true because i know and feel it inside;

- shamans told me so it's true;

- real indians told me they believe in the great spirit, so it must be true;

- i ate mushrooms and while i was tripping i realized a greater truth;

- You are wrong because you cite books.


You say "You guys never really say anything !!!! You are sheep !! You have nothing to say on your own merit" but on some point you had agreed with me, hadn't you?

You're a very angry person TJ, you only came here looking for confrontation. You're a bit of a internet bully aren't you?

You think you can downplay others experiences because you have supposedly "talked with shamans", "witnessed Voodoo", lived with "indigenous" people, and other poser bla bla blas, and still your arguments portrait you as someone that knows so little about life.

it's very sad

have a good ignorance :)

Comment by TJ on August 31, 2008 at 8:07pm

Well its been an experience fellas ........ I guess this internet thing is not for me ... I must not be intelegent enough or something !!!!

the reality of it is this ......... You guys never really say anything !!!! You are sheep !! You have nothing to say on your own merit ..... only quoting others and puting um lame analogies so that you wont have to actually discuss the things of the heart and Human spirit !!
This is not a forum for discussion and discovery .......... I had hoped it was ......
It was nice meeting you guys // Take Care !!

Comment by X6 on August 31, 2008 at 7:04pm

TJ - "Do you really expect us to believe that you have NEVER had and experience that made you question athiesm ??? "

Well let me tell you a story about my personal beliefs and feelings: when I was about 3 years old (so I'm told, I remember it vaguely) someone told me that there were a monster under my bed that would hurt me if I didn't go to bed early. My reaction was to go and see for my self that monster and, surprise surprise, there was no monster. Later, when I was 5, I confessed to my grandmother that I did not believe in god. Never did believe in god, or if I did I cannot remember.
--------------------------------------------------------------
On the matter "have to experience to know", that is not true. I do not have to throw my self out off a window to know how that would end. You can also learn from others.

TJ - "you fellows really need to get your noses out of the books and start living some life !!!!! "
Typical prejudice. Why would you think that my life is restricted to books?

TJ - "Magic mushrooms" If you are doing drugs you will not have a clear view of reality around you. Don't even bother to argue this, I live surrounded by too many people doing drugs (yes also mushrooms).

On the matter, "learn something deeper", atheism does not sell universal truths. It tells people to search beyond easy explanations like: If I can't understand it the it's probably god.

Like Sade stated "If I do not need god to explain something why should I include it in my explanation?"

Comment by TJ on August 31, 2008 at 2:20am

>>>>>Notice this is an atheists group: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". I hope you understand what i mean here, you wouldn't enter a strangers house and start to criticize the host and the other guests unless you had some valid points, would you?. It's also advisable to use some etiquette on this matters.

My apologies .... This is the first time I have ever posted in a forum and I certainly dont mean to offend anyone ..... I really dont know what I am doing or how to do it yet .... hahahahaha

• First
• Previous
• Next
• Last